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		<title>Comment on The power of Kiwiblog by dpf</title>
		<link>http://maidennz.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/the-power-of-kiwiblog/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>dpf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But they were very cool photos also!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Pictures of Napier Taupo Road Chaos by Chaos on the Napier &#8211; Taupo Road &#124; Kiwiblog</title>
		<link>http://maidennz.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/pictures-of-napier-taupo-road-chaos/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaos on the Napier &#8211; Taupo Road &#124; Kiwiblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MaidenNZ has some superb photos of the road yesterday. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on RSE Reporting by maidennz</title>
		<link>http://maidennz.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/rse-reporting/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>maidennz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kolokakala
Thanks for the time spent writing this very informative comment.  I have to apologise if I gave you impression that I believed Pacific Islanders were lazy; they are not.  What I meant was that the minimum wage scheme put in place to protect workers can actually harm the employers.  In horticulture, as you appear to know, most of the work is piecemeal;  paid on a per tree, per vine or per bin rate. If the worker (NZer, PI, Czech or Izbekistanian) decides not to work the employer still has to pay minimum wage.  Effectively workers can sit under a tree for a few days and still get paid.
I am also very aware that the RSE workers do not qualify for the medical benefits or WFF that other NZ tax payers are.  NZ has a trans tasman mutual recognition agreement with Australia which allows members of both countries to access free medical while travelling in each others countries.  It&#039;s something to think about for RSE scheme I think.
I will look further into some of your statements...they make very interesting reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kolokakala<br />
Thanks for the time spent writing this very informative comment.  I have to apologise if I gave you impression that I believed Pacific Islanders were lazy; they are not.  What I meant was that the minimum wage scheme put in place to protect workers can actually harm the employers.  In horticulture, as you appear to know, most of the work is piecemeal;  paid on a per tree, per vine or per bin rate. If the worker (NZer, PI, Czech or Izbekistanian) decides not to work the employer still has to pay minimum wage.  Effectively workers can sit under a tree for a few days and still get paid.<br />
I am also very aware that the RSE workers do not qualify for the medical benefits or WFF that other NZ tax payers are.  NZ has a trans tasman mutual recognition agreement with Australia which allows members of both countries to access free medical while travelling in each others countries.  It&#8217;s something to think about for RSE scheme I think.<br />
I will look further into some of your statements&#8230;they make very interesting reading.</p>
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		<title>Comment on RSE Reporting by kolokakala</title>
		<link>http://maidennz.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/rse-reporting/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>kolokakala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traditionally, horticulture jobs are not popular within New Zealand for the following reasons:
1. low pay
2. unreliable hours etc
RSE scheme on paper did look good but poor implementation and the whole scheme designed to benefit NZ. What Cambell did report is only the tip of the iceberg the problems workers from the Pacific are subject to exploitation with deja vu all over again to NZ previous work schemes.
There were lot of concerns raised at national level for the government to improve but government officials ploughed hugh amount of resources, bought some of the media with free or sponsor trips to report how well the scheme has been implemented.
Surprise? you may be and the NZ public but not for those of us who understand the concept.
After the NZ Prime Minister announced the scheme during Pacific Forum Leaders, October 2005 in Fiji, NZ officials went into overdrive with Department of Labour, official administrator of the scheme. Dr (?) Mary Anne Thompson, Deputy Secertary and  head of NZ Immigration, head of a steering group of top government officials including; NZAIDS, MFAT, MSD.
What they did, they reinvented the old failed work scheme model of the past years (70s-90s) and gave it a new name  &quot;Recognised Seasonal Employer Scheme (RSE)&quot;.
What was fundamentally wrong from the begining was the process took by these so call best brains in NZ bureaucracy. NZ wrote the rules, draft agreement and thrown in the participated countries (was originally 6 but was reduced to 5 as Fiji was excluded because of the December 2006 military coup) official representatives together with industry representatives and put them in a hotel Dec 2006 for two days, and the rest is history now.
NZ has to been seen thorogh and majority of the recources went to incerase border control and PR. The rest was left to the industry, which I agreed that the industry should pay its fair share, after all the industry will stand to gain and NZ.
Two key steakholders were not included after steering group came up with the scheme; they are the Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs and the Pacific community.
Division of NZI, Pacific Division, including Dr Thompson was charged of the scheme. People appointed to the key roles had no experience in this area.
After the first three months, problems started to surface as workers were struggling as work dried up  and went through tough times. Who came into the rescue? It was the families and member of the community. Through this we started to hightlight some of the NZ employers cuting corners. TV One News and Cambell Live and some in the media were helping to promote the scheme started to turn against DoL.
We all heard, read and learnt about this basic rule: Good working environment = high productivity. You can&#039;t treat anybody like that and expect good productivity. As Peter Cullen, employment lawyer said on Cambell Live, &quot;it head back to the evil of the old legislation, designed to stop you and lost control of your wages&quot;.
I take exception to your claim that the workers are lazy but they still get pay. This streotype NZ approach that we don&#039;t want the outside world to know is still alive here.
For your information, these workers are here at the request of the NZ government on behalf of the Horticulture nidustry who struggle to find ordinary NZers to work low pay. If NZers don&#039;t want to work in this type of condition, how the hell you expect Pacific or other workers to do it?
The other point you need to know, these workers pay the same tax rate as NZers workers in the industry but they not entitle to medical or working for family or other benefits fro MSD we enjoy when we on the dole.
You should be careful as obviously you have jumped on the emotional train without checking your facts and appreciate that NZ is part of the Pacific and the sooner you know that the better we are as a country.

Have a good weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traditionally, horticulture jobs are not popular within New Zealand for the following reasons:<br />
1. low pay<br />
2. unreliable hours etc<br />
RSE scheme on paper did look good but poor implementation and the whole scheme designed to benefit NZ. What Cambell did report is only the tip of the iceberg the problems workers from the Pacific are subject to exploitation with deja vu all over again to NZ previous work schemes.<br />
There were lot of concerns raised at national level for the government to improve but government officials ploughed hugh amount of resources, bought some of the media with free or sponsor trips to report how well the scheme has been implemented.<br />
Surprise? you may be and the NZ public but not for those of us who understand the concept.<br />
After the NZ Prime Minister announced the scheme during Pacific Forum Leaders, October 2005 in Fiji, NZ officials went into overdrive with Department of Labour, official administrator of the scheme. Dr (?) Mary Anne Thompson, Deputy Secertary and  head of NZ Immigration, head of a steering group of top government officials including; NZAIDS, MFAT, MSD.<br />
What they did, they reinvented the old failed work scheme model of the past years (70s-90s) and gave it a new name  &#8220;Recognised Seasonal Employer Scheme (RSE)&#8221;.<br />
What was fundamentally wrong from the begining was the process took by these so call best brains in NZ bureaucracy. NZ wrote the rules, draft agreement and thrown in the participated countries (was originally 6 but was reduced to 5 as Fiji was excluded because of the December 2006 military coup) official representatives together with industry representatives and put them in a hotel Dec 2006 for two days, and the rest is history now.<br />
NZ has to been seen thorogh and majority of the recources went to incerase border control and PR. The rest was left to the industry, which I agreed that the industry should pay its fair share, after all the industry will stand to gain and NZ.<br />
Two key steakholders were not included after steering group came up with the scheme; they are the Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs and the Pacific community.<br />
Division of NZI, Pacific Division, including Dr Thompson was charged of the scheme. People appointed to the key roles had no experience in this area.<br />
After the first three months, problems started to surface as workers were struggling as work dried up  and went through tough times. Who came into the rescue? It was the families and member of the community. Through this we started to hightlight some of the NZ employers cuting corners. TV One News and Cambell Live and some in the media were helping to promote the scheme started to turn against DoL.<br />
We all heard, read and learnt about this basic rule: Good working environment = high productivity. You can&#8217;t treat anybody like that and expect good productivity. As Peter Cullen, employment lawyer said on Cambell Live, &#8220;it head back to the evil of the old legislation, designed to stop you and lost control of your wages&#8221;.<br />
I take exception to your claim that the workers are lazy but they still get pay. This streotype NZ approach that we don&#8217;t want the outside world to know is still alive here.<br />
For your information, these workers are here at the request of the NZ government on behalf of the Horticulture nidustry who struggle to find ordinary NZers to work low pay. If NZers don&#8217;t want to work in this type of condition, how the hell you expect Pacific or other workers to do it?<br />
The other point you need to know, these workers pay the same tax rate as NZers workers in the industry but they not entitle to medical or working for family or other benefits fro MSD we enjoy when we on the dole.<br />
You should be careful as obviously you have jumped on the emotional train without checking your facts and appreciate that NZ is part of the Pacific and the sooner you know that the better we are as a country.</p>
<p>Have a good weekend.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ganesh Nana&#8230;economics that makes sense by bluetit</title>
		<link>http://maidennz.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/ganesh-nanaeconomics-that-makes-sense/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>bluetit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you have just found Ganesh.
He would have to be one of the best commentators.BERL are also the best at assessing economic issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you have just found Ganesh.<br />
He would have to be one of the best commentators.BERL are also the best at assessing economic issues.</p>
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		<title>Comment on No Asset Procedure (NAP) Law &#8211; Get out of Jail Free card. by chantel1</title>
		<link>http://maidennz.wordpress.com/2007/11/11/no-assest-procedure-nap-law-get-out-of-jail-free-card/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>chantel1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 08:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think its a really  good idea cause alot of people that get themselves stuck are mostly young or people whos financial life is going pretty well and then the unthinkable thing can just turn on you where you loose everything and end up in debt it gives us a second chance to correct the mistakes we made and better ourselves to not fall down that road again. and if these finance companys had offered these insurance packages back then where if something did go wrong they wouldnt loose out what thery lent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think its a really  good idea cause alot of people that get themselves stuck are mostly young or people whos financial life is going pretty well and then the unthinkable thing can just turn on you where you loose everything and end up in debt it gives us a second chance to correct the mistakes we made and better ourselves to not fall down that road again. and if these finance companys had offered these insurance packages back then where if something did go wrong they wouldnt loose out what thery lent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on No Asset Procedure (NAP) Law &#8211; Get out of Jail Free card. by chantel1</title>
		<link>http://maidennz.wordpress.com/2007/11/11/no-assest-procedure-nap-law-get-out-of-jail-free-card/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>chantel1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 08:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well just replying to an article from maidennz,
you are such a hipacrip and i really hope the worse comes your way where you really no what it feel likes having to apply to that get out of jail free card.
not everyone is perfect and lets just say finance companys do what they do to make money hell without them you probably wouldnt have what yourve got</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well just replying to an article from maidennz,<br />
you are such a hipacrip and i really hope the worse comes your way where you really no what it feel likes having to apply to that get out of jail free card.<br />
not everyone is perfect and lets just say finance companys do what they do to make money hell without them you probably wouldnt have what yourve got</p>
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		<title>Comment on Illegal Billboard? by whaleoil</title>
		<link>http://maidennz.wordpress.com/2008/01/06/illegal-billboard/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>whaleoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Details and a photo would be appreciated, send it to whaleoilbeefhooked@gmail.com and it&#039;sll be on the Free Speech Coalition&#039;s site momentarily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Details and a photo would be appreciated, send it to <a href="mailto:whaleoilbeefhooked@gmail.com">whaleoilbeefhooked@gmail.com</a> and it&#8217;sll be on the Free Speech Coalition&#8217;s site momentarily.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2008 by whaleoil</title>
		<link>http://maidennz.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/2008/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>whaleoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 20:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely buy an Apple.....they rock hands down, and this is from a previous PC nut., I will never go back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely buy an Apple&#8230;..they rock hands down, and this is from a previous PC nut., I will never go back</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shafted by a Telco cont&#8217;d by whaleoil</title>
		<link>http://maidennz.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/shafted-by-a-telco-contd/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>whaleoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was Vodafone then post this video.

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=F_umd2xjISo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was Vodafone then post this video.</p>
<p><a href="http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=F_umd2xjISo" rel="nofollow">http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=F_umd2xjISo</a></p>
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